Guest: EJ Smith

Topic: Financial Spousal Abuse


Bethany and Ellie start off talking about their home-brewed coffee, and conversation drifts towards buying cars and the story of Ellie buying her dream car. Buying a vehicle can be one of the biggest mistakes you make in your finances, so Ellie touches on the right way to do it as well as how not to lose $8k in 30 seconds.

EJ Smith, a Licensed Professional Counselor, joins the conversation speaking on a somewhat heavy but very important topic of financial spousal abuse. She speaks on being able to detect spousal abuse and the difference between being financial abusive and having financially unhealthy behaviors. She also talks about what lead her to pursue a career in mental health—including being a listener instead of talking. She provides several resources available to those in these situations. Bethany and Ellie wrap up the episode addressing the importance of speaking up about these issues, as well as touching again on the distinction between abuse and conflict.


National Hotline for Domestic Violence: 1 (800) 799-7233, EJ’s Website




EJ Smith
E.J. Smith is a Licensed Professional Counselor, and creator of The Sassy AdvocateTM. She specializes in healing from trauma -- specifically -- with survivors of domestic violence and sexual abuse. Her mission is to teach and inspire survivors and their supporters to reclaim their power, find their purpose, and live healthier, more fulfilling lives. For the last several years, she has enjoyed the opportunity to work with military families, and her current work is focused on suicide prevention for service members. In her advocacy role, she has spoken on college campuses, in the media, at conferences and town halls, and has published articles in print & online.

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